These are really big. actually I am noture of the size and they are new in package. I brought them a couple years ago and they were still here so I am selling them at cost. I believe they are size indicated as if I open them I won't be able to close them again as it takes strong hands and mine are not.  Clear mesh house, great for any mantis species in groups, they have plenty of room to roam, molt and just hang out, the ghost species in groups will do great in here.Wonderful ootheca hatching container also, plenty of room to stay away from each other 27 x 27x 48". Large zipper for great access to inside, ps, the precious souls are not for sale and will not come with container.